Through all the seas of all Thy world, slambangin' home again. Kipling
The Readers are finally back from their annual furlough. Those who coordinated the Lay Governance Conference returned with news of an unqualified success, and the Reader-in-Chief arrived from a vacation in the Mediterranean with some juicy news about the disgraceful Southern-European antics of a U.S.-based religious buccaneer. Some important — and moneyed — people over there are hopping mad, to say the least, and details of the whole unsavory episode have been shared with the Italian press. PL will have more on this later.
Since it'll take a while for our readership to learn PL's open again, we'll keep this post short. No sense in folks' missing good, hard-hitting slams at the scumbag cult masters. However, we can't pass up a comment on "One Hand Dan's" twin junkets to Mexico and Argentina (announced in last week's "Corner"), which came on the heels of the Dirtbag's low-keyed getaway with Cheeseball to oh-so-chic New Mexico. (Keep in mind that El Santuario de Chimayó, where Dannie recently made a "little pilgrimage," lies only a short 28 miles away from hip, multiculti, artsy Santa Fe, "The City Different.")
As we've been following the $GG collection reports over the summer, we wonder where the money's coming from to support all this lavish travel. From what we've seen, even on the better Sundays, the takings barely manage to exceed $4K: September 24, one of the Sundays "with an excellent turnout ... due to visitors" yielded a measly $4,196. (Remember it takes a lot of cash to support the
"Principal" and keep up with the repairs on the decaying cult center.) It's also important to note that right after bragging about the influx of outsiders, Li'l Daniel lamented "we are missing some of our own" and ordered prayers for their swift repatriation.
This latest spending-spree on travel reminds us of the pre-2009 $GG School Scandal Days, when money was no object. But now with diminishing numbers and ever-increasing maintenance expenses, all these excursions at home and abroad seem self-destructive. What happens if the Farmer's Almanac prediction of a mild and wet 2017-18 winter for SW Ohio is wrong? Will the remaining Gerties be called upon to bail Dannie out when "The Duke" (the energy provider for the cult) presents a massive demand for heating expenses?
In our humble opinion, the purpose of the Mexico and Argentina holidays is to dupe cultlings into thinking the Wee One is still a player on the international trad stage. (He isn't.) Big Don's got a completer stationed in Australia and is making noises about a "seminary" in France, while he occasionally jets off to Dear Old Blightly to impress the swells in London town. That must be too much for His Invidiousness to bear. We guess his ego must be stroked at any cost, lest the Donster's contempt grow. (That may also be why he puts up with all those pants-wearing Argentine gals.)
The international forays may give Travelin'-Man Dan an emotional boost, but what about the long-suffering Gerties? With the self-confessed shrinking cult membership, it's obvious those cultlings who remain with "One Hand" will have to make increasingly larger contributions. That may prove too heavy a burden in these difficult financial times. Culties need to ask themselves once and for all whether it's worth it or whether it's now time to
STARVE THE BEAST.
Hello,good to see you back.Look forward to future postings.You are aware that Big Don has now taken over the CMRI group Down Under in Brisbane as well as Melbourne,Australia.Anyone with info about what Julian Gilchrist was doing down there please come forward.
ReplyDeleteAnon Oct 7 at 10:18 PM.
DeleteThe said Priest said a Requiem Mass in Melbourne last month, funeral went well, about 250 people attended.
So is there still a CMRI group in Melbourne?
DeleteFrom info we have there is no CMRI group in Melbourne now.They turned to Sanborn and gave G the door.G must have no one left.
DeleteThose in Melbourne wanted weekly Mass, they pay for it. Do we all know the costs of travel, interstate in Australia?
DeleteGlad you're back! Your are right, the time did pass quickly.
ReplyDeleteDid you happen to notice the latest TRR topic?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.truerestoration.org/season-6-clerical-conversations-episode-28-lay-boards/
Coinky-dink?
Yes, we did, although of course it wasn't discussed at the 2017 Lay Governance Conference. We think it's airing is the result of increasing pressure on the trad cult masters for accountability, and it's clear he's still smarting from the Our Lady of the Sun episode.
DeleteThe fatal flaw in Big Don's argument is that he and all the men like him do not operate within the Catholic Church, so past Catholic practice does not apply in the slightest. It's shameful that TRR assists in perpetuating the fiction that somehow these ecclesiastical adventurers represent the Roman Catholic Church. As we've shown many times, they don't.
Sure they are Catholic, as any missionary priest in history. Yet, you here want to pull the wool over Catholics' eyes by promoting eastern rite Novus Ordo clergy! thos who believe Francis is a true pope! and who went through their heretical and deplorable seminaries! Really sad.
DeleteThis business about their being "missionary" priests is a canard. For one thing, they have no mission at all from the Roman Catholic Church, and for another, they don't operate under the Propaganda or its successor. Furthermore, the U.S. was removed from the Propaganda's jurisdiction very early in the last century.
DeleteOf course you conspicuously remain silent about your promotion of heretical clergy!
DeleteYou answer shows ignorance of the fact that epikeia and supplied jurisdiction are very real principles on the Catholic books. Trying to apply ecclesiastical law in a situation where the legislator did not intend it to apply, is your own canard opposed to Catholic principle.
Back to the REAL problem...why do you promote heretical clergy attached to heretical seminaries believing Francis is a true pope?
Those appeals to epieikeia and supplied jurisdiction have been blown to smithereens on any number of websites. You need to do some reading.
DeleteCult "clergy" are NOT Catholic, and many are probably invalid. THAT is the real problem.
Link to the BEST explosion you know of! I have seen nothing but dark ignorance on that subject for decades.
DeleteI would rather have to mete out my existence making sure of validity, than to go whole hog as you are promoting heretical clergy Novus Ordo clergy. Better to die with the virtue of faith.
The ignorance is yours then, and it's not our brief to enlighten you. We will say this, however: The Church would never supply jurisdiction for men who were not trained in approved seminaries, were illicitly ordained, may well be invalid, and never received a commission from her. Furthermore, she will never supply jurisdiction when both the "clergy" and the "laity" know these rogue adventurers haven't jurisdiction or faculties. There's no common error and no positive or probable doubt.
Delete"There's no common error and no positive or probable doubt." Precisely !
DeleteAnd as Bouscaren and Ellis put it: "Epikeia (... ) is evidently a very exceptional thing. It may be used with prudent discretion, and is justified, only in a particular case. (... ) The general and habitual interpretation of a law contrary to its clear terms is not epikeia, but an evident abuse." ) T. Bouscaren SJ / A. Ellis SJ, Canon Law a Text and Commentary, Milwaukee 1946, pp 33/4
Trad cultists have abused both epieikeia and supplied jurisdiction for too long now. It's good that many traditional Catholics are aware of these shenanigans and don't listen to their false assertions.
DeleteReader, I am completely aware of the issue, and this is why I know that you have it sorely wrong. I even asked your for a link you bragged exists, but then you cannot produce. Then you just make up empty claims about the subject showing your inability to grasp and apply the principles.
DeleteYou actually commit mortal sin by promoting that Catholics today should associate with the heretical Novus Ordo Eastern rite clergy, and you keep running away from facing that when it is brought up here.
Those ordained from MHT are trained better than the priests of the early Church, better than your Novus Ordo Eastern rite priests, and as well as priests in the time of St. Dominic. Claiming they are not trained to the level of post-Trent means zilch in a situation of great apostasy and a false pope. To say otherwise is a trick of the Pharisees - killing the spirit with the letter.
No, priests don't have to know about St. John the Baptist. To make something out of that is just plain persnickety.
The quote by Bouscaren & Ellis says it is a very exceptional thing. Yes, it is warranted as long as the exceptional exists, and the laws of the Church has no such thing in mind as a false pope and hierarchy gone amuck, so it is a standing exceptional circumstance.
Proof positive that the MHT and CMRI, etc., priests are the ones to receive the Sacraments from is, #1, they are not heretics.
Then when you look at the historical situation of the schismatic "Orthodox", you see clergy who are NOT Christian, having lived generations upon generations furthering ordinations and moving geographically. Historically, when one of these schismatic clergy decided to recognize the primacy of Rome, they automatically became Catholic and were allowed to continue to function to provide the Mass and Sacraments. They immediately regained "mission" and any necessary jurisdiction from the Church to continue as Catholic clergy.
I am sorry, but you are SO out of your element on this subject it is embarrassing. Looking forward to the equally embarrassing web link you have that you mistakenly think is intellectually correct.
You are wrong on all counts, and it's your ignorance about the issues that's embarrassing. Your greatest error is about the quality of the MHT formation. Take the word from those who grew up in a better era: it's nothing like the rigor of pre-V II seminary education.
DeleteAs we wrote previously, it's not our duty to school you. A little due diligence on your part will soon uncover the sources (both electronic and print) that will teach you the correct application of epieikeia and supplied jurisdiction.
As a final comment on this thread, we point out that none of these malformed trad "clergy" ever had a mission in the first place, so it's impossible to regain it. And, of course, we point out that even the few validly ordained traddies were never Roman Catholic clergy in the first place.
How about you back this up with something other than your opinion? This anon observer is not impressed.
DeleteO.K.
DeleteAnon 10/9 11AM:
DeleteYour assertion that all eastern rite clerics are heretics does not make it true. Was the entire Catholic world which all accoted the public heretic Paul VI, say from from 1965 to 1970, heretics, leaving no Catholics left? Clearly accepting an antipope false claim to the papacy is not ipso facto proof of heresy.
How strange it is that we ought to apply all kinds of moral principles exculpating Tradistani clergy ... while treating the supposed heresy of the institutional Church as if it were a dogmatic fact. If we can be that lenient, why not just say: "I'm OK – You're OK"?
DeleteSimplicius,
DeleteI think the problem comes from a false logical conclusion. If a man who claims to be Pope is a heretic, it does not mean that those who think he's pope are heretics.
There can be many reasons why good Catholics may believe Francis is pope, while not following him into heresy.
Most who hold the sedevacantist position do not seem to grasp this concept, and in my opinion, that is the root of their error.
I like that term "slambangin'." I will try to use it this week. You use a lot of cool words in your posts. I'd love to have the eloquence and vocabulary with which you write.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words. Kipling's a great source for colorful vocabulary.
DeleteYou came back just in time to witness a "completer's confession":
ReplyDeleteNot only are our schoolchildren excellent servers and singers, I’m so often gladdened by their knowledge of their Catholic religion. During the three feasts close to each other (St. Michael, the Guardian Angels, and St. Therese) Our Lord told us in the Gospel to humble ourselves as the little child. I was teaching the little children about Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception, and happened mistakenly to tell them that besides Jesus, Our Lady was the only human born without the stain of sin. And one little boy raised his hand and said that he knew someone else, and I, a little baffled, asked who? And he said: “St. John the Baptist!” And he was right. St. John the Baptist was “replenished with the Holy Ghost even from his mother’s womb.” (St. Luke 1:15) So even though he was not free from the stain of original sin since the first moment of his existence, like Our Lady was, St. John truly was born without sin. I was very happy at being humbled by a little child, because this showed that all the hard work the parents and teachers do in educating our children in the Faith has not been in vain.
The Forlorn Finn acknowledged his years in the Pesthouse were a complete waste of time !
The Forlorn Finn obviously hasn't consulted the easily available Haydock commentary on the Lucan verse, which glosses (bold emphases ours):
Delete"And he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb; from which words some conjecture, that S. John the Baptist, though conceived in original sin, yet might have been freed from the guilt of it before he came into the world."
Clearly the view is not universal, nor settled, and he should have made that clear. (He's also seemingly unaware of the hermeneutic implications that arise from the absence of the definite article in the original Greek text.)
One final question we have is, Why can't this completer just quote from the Douay or the Confraternity versions, which read "filled" not "replenished"? It looks as though he's trying to make an impression by suggesting that he's translating from the Vulgate, which uses the verb replebitur. Now while replere in classical Latin can mean "replenish, make full again" it also means "to fill (up), to fill (something with)." In the Vulgate, it means "to fill, satisfy" (Harden).
This is disgraceful — and it's not Catholic.
You start your blog with, "The Readers are finally back from their annual furlough."
ReplyDeleteWhy can't you give your full names? Why is it a secret?
The identities of the Readers are not a "secret." It's just unnecessary to use them. We want our readership to focus on content, not personalities.
DeleteI didn't ask for you to "use" them; I asked about revealing them. I am asking you now what they are, and if you refuse based on it being "unnecessary", you essentially reveal that it is indeed a secret. It fits the definition precisely.
DeleteNot at all. "Using" or "revealing" is simply not germane. Content is everything.
DeleteBack up to nearer the beginning of the comments... in my way of seeing things, there is a financial incentive for SH, head and founder of TRR, and the trio and their associates to be associated with one another. SH is a businessman and has founded several businesses.
ReplyDeleteThat's the chief reason for the stable at TRR. Membership dues were increased this year over what I paid when I joined. I am no longer a member.
Perfect would be for me anyway, if SH were to branch out and investigate the wider scene but this is his business and his original idea he runs in his way.
All parties benefit financially; in addition to the TRR-style priests and bishop - SH has employees who serve for a small amount of money.